Bilkul.. Shrimad Bhagwat Mahapuran me likha h Krishnastu Bhagwan swayam.. Shri Ram ne kbhi apne ko bhagwaan nhi btaya kyu ki ravan ko vardaan Mila tha sirf insaan ke haath marega.. Shri Ram ji apne ko bhagwan btate toh ravan ko maar nhi pate.. Pr Shri Krishna ki leelayein toh sakshat Narayan ki hi h.. vo hi bhagwan h

ye puraan kitni puraani hai?

Puraan kitni purani h?? Crores of crores of years.. Phle Vedas likhi gyi fir Upanishad aur fir puran

yess

just because shrimad Bhagwatam mai likha hai ki krishan baghwaan, to mai yaa koi or maan le

isn't god supposed to save humans

but krishan did kind of opposite thing

Firm believers have experienced his blessings in all forms. Hamare jaise insaan ka likha hua nhi h ye sb.. Ved Vyas jo ki Bhagwan Vishnu ke hi avtar ne unhone likha h ye sb.. Aur Bhagwan Shri Krishna ki kripa ke bina unhe na toh koi jaan pata h na hi unme vishwaas kr pata h

God supposed to guide us and give us hope to live a bttr life with kindness

He lifted Mount Govardhan for 7 days and 7 nights on his little finger to save braj vasis, cows, etc from the wrath of Indra that caused a disastrous downpour the destruction of which could have been unfathomable

ooo yaa now you mentioned Indra

if something bad in our destiny, God can't remove tht..he'll be there to guide through those difficulties

why Indra didn't know that krishan is there

He saved his friends from demons like aghasur, bakasur, he saved 16,100 women from a demon named Narakasur, he incarnated to reestablish dharma and wiped out demons like kamsa, trinavarta, pootana, jarasandh, Kauravas, poundrak, etc. Vo phle bhi sb ki raksha krte the aur aaj bhi krte h.. Bs jisne unpe vishwaas kr liya toh vo zindagi kya h kyu h sb jaan lega.. But again as I said unki kripa ke bina koi unhe jaan bhi nhi skta

@mon00 where did you learn that

Indra knew he was Krishna.. But his arrogance and ego blindfolded him but when he realised that the one who has lifted govardhan for 7 days and nights (a 7 year old Krishna), he realised his mistake and asked for forgiveness. Indra gave the name Govind to Shri Krishna

depends on yo faith

yaa that ego!! still he has his thrown. that some bullshit

ok let's come back to our original question

Throne, you mean? Shri Krishna is the biggest forgiver.. he forgave Indra, Brahma, he gave salvation to demons who plotted against him.. Islie unhe akaran karuna varunalay bolte h.. Indra ne ignorance ki wajah se baarish krwayi thi but Shri Krishna toh .. he is the father of everyone he created us all.. So he only forgives.. He is tolerant and merciful upon his devotees

Indra bhi bohot powerful h according to Mahabharat jitni strength 10,000 airavat haathi me h utni Indra me h.. 100 ashwamedh yagna krne ke baad koi Indra bnta h so he won't be dethroned.. He was forgiven by Shri Krishna

so why he didn't forgive kaurava?

and why Krishan only merciful to his devotees?

what about other being on this universe?

Kauravas always chose the path of adharma.. they tried to poison Bheem, they insulted Draupadi by removing her clothes (uss waqt bhi Shri Krishna ne raksha ki sirf aur sb chup baithe the). Unhone chal se pandavo ko haraya tha.. Fir exile me bheja vo alag.. uske baad bhi condition rakhi ki 1 year tk disguise me rahoge sb aur agar pakde gye toh fir se van vaas shuru karo.. van vaas khtm hone pr bhi unhone rightfully kingdom nhi di.. Pandavo ke rehne ki jagah me aag lga di thi.. Adhram tolerate nhi krte Shri Krishna aur vo adharm hi khtm krne aaya the islie Mahabharat ka yudh hona tha

He is merciful to everyone. Putana the demoness attempted to poison him with milk but he gave salvation to her.. Not just putana but trinavarta, shishupal, aghasur, bakasur, Narakasur, Mur, kams.. he bestowed them all with salvation.. But yes he is very dear to his devotees and he always protects them.. He is kind to all.. hum sb unhi ke h so there's no partiality.. Vo hum sb se pyaar krte h

sorry mate but your last answer Is not that helpful

You asked about other beings of universe.. Heard of gajendra moksh? Upon hearing the pleas of the elephant Gajendra, Vishnu came down on Garud (eagle) and saved gajendra from the clutches of a crocodile.. He gave salvation to both of them... He is merciful upon all species, not just humans or devotees in particular

so you are saying is garuda is eagle?

Well as I said, without his mercy no one can get to know him.. that is the cause of adharma today in this kalyug.. I consider myself lucky that I am well versed in our scriptures and I am blessed to know Bhagwan Shri Krishna.. I have answered all your questions..

Garuda is an eagle.. He is the vahana of Shri Maha Vishnu

Just like Nandi is the vahana of Shiva, Garuda is the vahana of Vishnu

well Indonesian people said that lord Vishnu mount is a phoenix. well what can we can every similar culture has different version of the same story

*what can we say*

you said lord Vishnu help a elephant in need. ok

India is the origin of Sanatan Dharma and our ancient scriptures like Vedas, Upanishads, Puranas, gita.. these are the sole concrete proof of past present and future. Due to cultural influences, countries have their own variations of our gods. Cambodia, Thailand, and Bali have their own versions of Shrimad Ramayan.

Every story from the past is useless if you didn't learn from them. it doesn't matter if someone has proves that these stories are not myths

Actually people think that the purpose of human life is to make money and live a luxurious life but we are given this human body so that we are no longer entrapped in the 84 lakh species of birth and death cycle.. Human body is to know and serve Shri Krishna/ Shiva.. Human body is attained after taking birth in 84 lakh species.. Sadly some do not get to know God even in their human life and the cycle repeats.. It's kind of nice that you asked this question.. curiosity is good.. Hope you make good use out of it 👍

And there's a difference between stories and facts.. These are not fairy tales for kids to be called stories..

see this is my point and you are just proving

look it's dose not matter if the story is real or fairy tail untill you are learning something from it to make yourself better

Like I said, it takes lakhs of births to know him and reach him.

People since time immeasurable have learnt from the pastimes (leelas) of Shri Krishna and have reached him. So it is all upto us

that's what you believe and what I believe is far different

Then you're still a long way from reaching him.. It won't happen without his mercy.. it never has

The woman, a paramedical student, was attacked while going home after watching a movie with her friend. She was repeatedly raped, tortured brutally and thrown off the bus along with her friend. this is Delhi gang rape case of 2012

I don't want to reach to him.

so tell me this why didn't krishan help her in need

Good or bad happens to us because of our past life karma.. And perpetrators will rot in hell for crores of years (yugas), as the punishment for heinous crimes are unspeakable as per Garud Puran.

it's not just about krishan but about other god too

Even Pandavas faced years of torture. Shri Krishna was there throughout. But they never stopped believing in him and that led to their massive victory

their wife got saved by krishan, why not the other woman

ooo yaa she need to be his devotee to be saved

Krishan is multy dimensional

understanding krishan with 1 perspective is not enough

There is only one God and he is Shri Krishna.. Brahma originated from Vishnu and then Shiva.. people perceive them as different but they're all the same.. Our gods (in whAtever form), have always appeared to save when someone in distress has called to them. Didn't Shri Krishna save the pride of Draupadi? Didn't Vishnu incarnate as Narsimha to save Prahlad and slay Hiranyakashyap? Didn't Vishnu save Gajendra? Didn't he come down for the 5 year old Dhruv? Didn't he save Ajamil for clutches of Yamadoot and save him from hell and death? It's all in faith and belief... For those who believe, he is omnipresent

what about Today??

these are stories from the past, how much true these stories hold no one knows

check crime records of the world, you will get the idea

Have other women trusted him enough to call out to him in desperate times of need? Draupadi gave up all hopes on those seated within the hall and only prayed to Shri Krishna whole heartedly because she knew he would come to her rescue and he did. Today, do we display the same faith in him? There are instances even in today's time where Shri Krishna has appeared to save those who have called out to him.. Either you doubt him or you place complete trust in him.. there's no in between

Please visit Vrindavan you'll find devotees who have trusted him and ask them how they have been saved.. you'll find people from all over India with experiences

those who born in sanatan culture knows about krishan, what about those woman who born in different cultures

And those who are in need of help, they don't specify a helping hand

Instances are countless even in today's time but it takes his mercy and firm belief to even believe in those.. Without his mercy even real life instances will look like fairy tales or superhero movies

what you are doing is just blind faith

In today's time Hindus are doubting our faith and God but surprisingly westerners are also behind Krishna consciousness movement. Russia has the largest no. of Krishna devotees.. And as for those westerners who are oblivious of the power of Krishna, what choice do they have? That is why we say we're lucky to be born in India and into Sanatan Dharma because we have been presented with a rare chance.

What if that blind faith is actually guiding us through this tough life? Millions of devotees are not fools... surely there must be something.. they trusted him and placed their faith on him and maybe they witnessed a change which is why they chose to pursue the very same path..

ooo yaa iskcon

well if it's helping youin right path of life then cool

Yes

well I consider my human more than anything.

That's fine .. It has been said Janmantare bhavet punyam tadha bhagavatam labhet.. After doing good deeds in countless births we get to know Krishna and Shrimad Bhagwat Mahapuran. It's a journey for all of us.. Even the fact that you had a curiousity and talked about Shri Krishna is actually good. Wish you all the best 👍

haaaa

is it krishan or krishna

Krishna .. कृष्ण

Krishan is a version brought about by people who were unable to pronounce Krishna

and krishnaa is real name of dropadi.

I know that @thrilledtomatoe5

Yes that is कृष्णा (draupadi). कृष्ण is bhagwan shri krishna

can we connect on insta

what's your Id?

Just ping me if you want to connect. I'm off to sleep now

sorry but I don't follow religious page's.

thrilledtomato you were super cool in this debate

@alertchile0 Thank you!! It is my duty to clarify :)

@alertchile0 you are right but still there some answers which are just kind of manipulative answers

it was a interesting convo... yet not satisfied

apne ko nind nahi aa rahi thi to socha thoda time paas kar lete hai

lol

@shivang- Dude, I have 2 diplomas in Shrimad Bhagwad Gita and I have read all major Puranas, Shrimad Valmiki Ramayan, Garga Samhita, etc. I am well versed in our scriptures and my answers were genuine and thoroughly researched. I am an eminent orator. If you found my answers manipulative then it means you are still choosing to be in darkness. But I answered every question with genuine tranquility as it is my Dharma or duty. Nobody is trying to manipulate you. Nobody without his mercy can coerce beliefs upon anyone. So you have no right to call my replies manipulative. You should be appreciative that I replied to every question of yours at midnight with patience and geniality

sorry mate I didn't mean to hurt you but I said what I feel. You are so knowledgeable still you don't know that humans speak what they feel?

And you didn't care enough to appreciate my patient responses, despite which you're calling me manipulative? Sanatanis have never been manipulative. If you cannot be appreciative then atleast don't be insolent

huh, darkness you say, nice matte

Truth is always bitter. Yet words must be spoken with utmost caution so as to not call an eminent orator manipulative

huh sanatanis! bullshit. I bet you guys just see people with religious eye like that guys Christine, that guys muslim etc instead of humans

first your words are not your orders words and I said that your some answers are kind of manipulative.

People like you are causing the downfall of the oldest religion on planet. If you can point fingers at me, so can I. So end this conversation with the remainder of your self respect before you misuse this platform because the purpose of this app is not debate on existence of God or religion. It exists to help people with mental issues. You asked, I answered. I have nothing else to do with you

and you still stuck with me, I have already said just recently that I am just doing this type of convo for time pass, it's not I really care about this god mumble jumble

Insaano ko insaan ki tarah dekhoge to samjh mai aaega ki kyo humans dubble face rakh apna kaam karte ya karvaate hai

please guys this platform is for mental health not for religious discussions

this app will loss it's whole meaning which It was made for

sorry @cautiousvenison6 this won't happen again.

there is no such good app that I have found like my ears

thanks for understanding