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humorousMagpie7it cannot be true no religion teach such things like harm its all man made
pitifulapricots4Are you Muslim?- humorousMagpie7no i but understand god
- pitifulapricots4I have verses which proves Islam asks you to kill those who leaves the faith of Allah and also it's okay to do sex slavery
- humorousMagpie7its crap made up by humans
- pitifulapricots4yes there is God. I am not saying this but if we see Islam is the most regressive religion in the world right now.
- pitifulapricots4yes. this might be.
- humorousMagpie7dont take it serious
- humorousMagpie7being religious and spiritual are 2 different things
- pitifulapricots4but the point is these brainwashed Muslims aren't gonna understand this In India a separate law has been made for Muslims which is Sharia law polygamy is allowed.
- pitifulapricots4yes. that's the point
- humorousMagpie7r u muslim
unhappytomatoe0The problem isn't the religion but the people.- unhappytomatoe0You see, sex slavery isn't allow in Islam too actually, and please drop the verse, I will try look into it.
- pitifulapricots4wait I'll give you.
- pitifulapricots4It is permissible to have sexual intercourse with the female captive. Allah the almighty said: “[Successful are the believers] who guard their chastity, except from their wives or (the captives and slaves) that their right hands possess, for then they are free from blame [Koran 23:5–6].”…
- pitifulapricots4So many scholars had justified sex slavery too.
- unhappytomatoe0those who guard their chastity 23:5, except with their wives or those ˹bondwomen˺ in their possession,1 for then they are free from blame 23:6
- pitifulapricots4there is sex slavery search in YouTube even the Islamic scholars had agreeed to this
- pitifulapricots4they can have unlimited number of sex slaves and concubines
- pitifulapricots4bondwomen means slaves by the way.
- humorousMagpie7this is unethical
- pitifulapricots4they say that polygamy is allowed in Islam because at the times of war men may die Consequently increasing the number of women so polygamy is allowed. But in today's generation polygamy is not needed.
- unhappytomatoe0It's mostly involving the timeline, back in the day, there were slave, one of the slave type is the one who bond to be a slave for their whole life. The bondwomen are indeed can be taken to bed, but for better understanding Islam did not encourage that. To explain further, before Islam came, the men were much more worse back then, so the limit that were given to them is their spouse and the bondwomen(which I believe didn't exist anymore)
- pitifulapricots4This is logical I do. agree . But as I said If i give any logicak answers to Muslims they say they can still do it because Allah didn't forbid us from doing such things
- unhappytomatoe0Polygamy isn't something to be taken lightly, because women's right in Islam are many, polygamy were allow so that the man can help, provide and protect the widow. The problem is the men when it come to polygamy, they talk about it so lightly that they forgot how many right do women have.
- unhappytomatoe0Indeed it is not forbidden, but they also can't force themselves to the women.
- pitifulapricots4but the women can also don't divorce according to Sharia law because it is allowed in Quran
- unhappytomatoe0pardon? I don't understand
- unhappytomatoe0But in my opinion, Islam is a great religion actually, but the people are hard to explain... Because some will say they're Islam yet they don't follow what were guide by Prophet Muhamad S.A.W and the Quran.
- unhappytomatoe0It's kinda hard to understand Islam sometimes but the deeper you understand the more you realize why Islam is a great religion.
- pitifulapricots4the women cannot divorce their Husband because polygamy is allowed in Islam so it's not a valid reason to divorce and the Islamic court will not permit this.
- pitifulapricots4unhappytomatoe0 sorry to say but i think Islam is not good. Prophet Mohammed married 6 year old girl and consummate the marriage at the age of 9 year old.
- unhappytomatoe0No, because back in the day, those stuff weren't problem because Aisyah R.A had reached her puberty. The age on consents change as time past by.
- unhappytomatoe0As far as I know, women can get divorce their husband, even if it because she doesn't like him.
- pitifulapricots4but then it's not God- given religion. It's man made. people should understand this.
- unhappytomatoe0Why do you think it's man-made?
- pitifulapricots4God cannot make mistakes God don't want to hurt people
- pitifulapricots4r u Muslim
- pitifulapricots4Women can't get divorce women needs her husband permission on the other hand husband can divorce his wife by repeat three times "Talaq " only.
- unhappytomatoe0Indeed god don't make mistake, and what make you think that god is hurting people, because in this world(dunya) is a test.
- pitifulapricots4why would God tell it's okay to have sex slaves And it's okay to kill those who leav Islam tell me.
- unhappytomatoe0But you do realize that divorce nowadays need long process too, back then a women came to prophet Muhammad S.A.W, asking if she could divorce her husband, prophet Muhammad S.A.W did not forbid her to do so, about the talaq, the husband didn't repeat talaq 3 times for divorce, talaq have 3 type, talaq 1 and 2 are able to get marry back, but talaq 3 cannot.
- pitifulapricots4yes I know divorce are Increasing but why only men have the right to divorce not women. don't you think it's good? and i don't really understand the concept of concubines
- pitifulapricots4prostitution is forbidden but concubines is not.
- pitifulapricots4if you want to connect me in Insta i can give you all the proofs.
- pitifulapricots4Islam tells " aurat ak kheti hay aur usme jithe chahe kro"
- unhappytomatoe0Do you see muslim men have concubine nowadays? Like I said, it's a limit.
- unhappytomatoe0I only understand English, just continue here, I don't have insta.
- pitifulapricots4yes I say Muslim men don't have concubines because of education and they became liberal. but problem is only with those extremist people
- pitifulapricots4Many Muslim men say they can practice polygamy because it's Sunnah
- unhappytomatoe0You do know that the concubine we referring to is the person who bond to be a slave their whole life. Nowadays Muslim men don't have concubine because slave didn't exist anymore and were free already.
- unhappytomatoe0Polygamy isn't sunnah.
- unhappytomatoe0When prophet Muhammad S.A.W marry Khadijah R.A, he only have her that time.
- pitifulapricots4it is you can search in YouTube it is preached by scholars
- pitifulapricots4in Islam "a woman is like a farmland and you can sown how much seeds you want " which means you can make many babies from her
- unhappytomatoe0Ash-Shirbeeni from the Shaafi'i School of jurisprudence, said: "It is a Sunnah not to marry more than one wife if there is no apparent need."
- unhappytomatoe0In Islam, couple were encourage to have many children, but it is not a must.
- pitifulapricots4a husband don't even need his first wife permission to marry second wife.
- unhappytomatoe0Sorry to say this but some of the scholars aren't understanding too deeply, so when you want to refer to scholars, make sure they have the deep understanding and research.
- pitifulapricots4if you fear that you cannot act equitably towards orphans, then marry such women as seem good to you, two and three and four; but if you fear that you will not do justice (between them), then (marry) only one or what your right hands possess; this is more proper, that you may not deviate from the right course
- pitifulapricots4u know Zakir naik?
- pitifulapricots4a man needs not to be equally love all the wives but he should treat all equal then he can marry up to 4
- unhappytomatoe0Indeed the husband don't need the first wife permission, but doesn't mean he wouldn't get sin, because he hurt her feeling and causing their marriage to be in worse state.
- unhappytomatoe0Yes, the man need to treat 4 wifes equally, but if he feel like he can't, it's better to have 1 wife only, it's quite dangerous to get second wife as the husband will have more responsible.
- unhappytomatoe0Not only responsibility, but he bring chaos in the marriage too, so it's another sin.
- pitifulapricots4but... it's not written in Quran and all the scholars never said that by marrying 4 wives if he brings chaos he is sinful. Instead the wife is sinful if he prevents his husband from doing what his right and she may not go to jannah.
- unhappytomatoe0It might be seem fun to have more than 1 wife to those who doesn't understand this concept, but Islam did not teach them to hurt another person's feeling, when you hurt someone's feeling, you'll get sin, in here(dunya) might not be seen but at the day of judgement will.
- pitifulapricots4it is said that if a wife controls her jealousy she will make her path directly to jannah
- pitifulapricots4even if you make sense and is quite logical but these things are no were mentioned nor preached by any Islamic Scholars.
- pitifulapricots4where are you from? Indonesia? and if India which state?
- pitifulapricots4I have many videos and articles which proves Islam is not really a way of life.
- unhappytomatoe0It is not written on Quran, like I said, doing deeper understanding and research you can find out the consequences on each actions.
- pitifulapricots4then what about scholars. Nor one scholar had preached this.
- unhappytomatoe0Aisyah R.A herself is quite a jealous women, and she show it, she even follow prophet Muhammad S.A.W outside during nighttime due to feeling something isn't wrong, when prophet Muhammad S.A.W saw her, he did not get mad, he did not ban nor forbid her doing those.
- pitifulapricots4okay but why did a 55 year old man married 9 year old girl. Before marriage was between a child and a child.
- pitifulapricots4But ny question is what about these Islamic scholars?
- unhappytomatoe0I don't know why scholars didn't mention that, but one thing we should know, if we hurt someone's feeling, it's a sin too.
- unhappytomatoe01If I weren't mistaken, because Aisyah R.A is special, angel bring her picture to prophet Muhammad S.A.W, but before you say it's a force marriage or anything, Aisyah is an intelligent women, she able to memorize the Quran in 6 months. She once lost her necklace, and prophet Muhammad S.A.W stop entire army to look for her lost necklace.
- unhappytomatoe0Please don't forget about age consent in different timeline too.
- pitifulapricots4but preventing your husband from marrying 2nd wife is also hurting his feelings right?
- pitifulapricots4okay if prophet Muhammed is the messenger of Allah. This is scientifically proved a 9 year is definitely not emotionally matured even if he hit her Puberty. Then prohpet Muhammad should probably prevent others from marrying children rather than encouraging him by marrying himself. This is the point!
- unhappytomatoe0That is being Aisyah R.A is a special women, that's why. And at this point I don't know how to explain anymore, it's draining me. Pardon me for saying this, other people always criticize Islam, especially about prophet Muhammad S.A.W marry Aisyah R.A, but muslim themselves didn't make trouble out of Rebecca, because they respect other religions.
- pitifulapricots4Listen I indeed used to respect Islam but after knowing certain things yes, it's really distressing for any one. I don't hate Muslims! I hate the extremist ones who say I will practice polygamy it is my God given right. I can marry girls before the age of 12 .
- pitifulapricots4cutting hands for theft isn't it dehumanizing? leaving Islam then death penalty.
- unhappytomatoe0Before Islam came, girls brought shame to the family, but now paradise is underneath mother's feet, daughter will open the paradise door for the father. They didn't ban nor forbid women from study unlike other nations and place back then. If a man ever hurt a girl's feeling, prophet Muhammad S.A.W himself will be the man's opponent on day of judgement.
- pitifulapricots4I would suggest you to look from my perspective I indeed looked from your perspective and you made sense but the point is it is neither mentioned nor preached by any Scholar.
- unhappytomatoe0Like I said, the problem isn't the religion but the people.
- pitifulapricots4yes these things of Islam are really great! but as I said God will never make mistakes.
- pitifulapricots4yes this could be.
- unhappytomatoe0Cutting hand for theif is punishment so that it wouldn't happen again and keep the place safe, with heavy punishment, people more scared to commit it.
- pitifulapricots4once I was arguing with a guy he said I will practice polygamy Then I said your wife has also the right to divorce u. he said she can't unless I permit and if she prevents me to practice what which is valid according to Islam she is considered as 'Kufr' and Consequently lose her ability to attain 'Jannah'
- unhappytomatoe0Are you perhaps still trying to find reason to deny Islam or to hate them?
- pitifulapricots4I don't hate Islam if only the goods things are being practiced
- unhappytomatoe0I understand that you still confuse and lack of understanding but from how you texting, seem like you trying to find reason to hate Islam? do you perhaps have bad experience with Muslim before?
- pitifulapricots4I hate Muslim men how they use the advantage of polygamy just to fulfill their lust and the court will not do anything on this regard
- unhappytomatoe0Ohhh, you see, when someone is doing something wrong, you have to tell them, but if they don't listen to you then it will be their problem on day of judgement.
- pitifulapricots4and why if a woman doesn't wear burka she looses her ability to attain jannah?
- unhappytomatoe0Muslims men nowadays are ridiculous, I myself do see and experience it, they might escape in dunya but not on day of judgement.
- pitifulapricots4I have no problem with the Muslim women only some men.
- pitifulapricots4I think Islam should have female scholars then only the truth will be heard.
- unhappytomatoe0No, I don't think it's correct, because from what I learn, women should cover up from head to toe expect for her face and hands to the wrist only, burka is covering face, it is not a must to do so and it will not take away her ability to enter Jannah.
- unhappytomatoe01Yeah I understand you, sometimes the scholars didn't explain properly.
- pitifulapricots4I also before used to give these interpretation but none listened to me.
- pitifulapricots4they called me 'kukr'
- unhappytomatoe0I must say, don't listen too much about muslim on internet, because our era is close to the ending, many lies and stuff will happen, so it be more safe to do our own research.
- unhappytomatoe0But don't worry, pain in this dunya is only temporary, like I said before, they might escape dunya but not on day of judgement.
- unhappytomatoe0We been texting for long time now, it's 107 now( ╹▽╹ )
- pitifulapricots4yes I hope so! so the problem is with the people not with the religion you're right!
- pitifulapricots4yes it's okay bye goodnight thanks it was nice talking with u I learnt many things.
- unhappytomatoe01Your welcome, I gladly help few people here.
Shivaanginteresting topic to talk over but i am late.. :)
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